Yes.
We've also seen periods in the 1990s—which I think speaks to your point, Mr. Chair, that we've seen rates much lower than that during times of restraint. When we do this projection analysis, the same way, I think, the Department of Finance does it, we create baselines based on a longer term history. We project forward. Based on looking at income, looking at population, looking at enrichment, you're going to see health spending in the neighbourhood of about 5% to 5.5%.