Okay. I just wanted to make sure I had that right.
I want to turn to Ms. Brisebois and the tariff issue she laid out very well in her notes.
Obviously, the challenge is that there's an awful lot of revenue raised on an annual basis from the tariff. You make your points very well. We've talked about this privately, but could you give us some guidance as to how you and your association would perhaps phase these out over a longer period of time, such that the fiscal costs to the government would be absorbed over a long-term period rather than over the short term?