You are right, since the pension rates are used as a guide for those interest rates, usually over a five or ten-year period. It depends.
We see that the bond rates are increasing slightly. That's a symptom of the natural growth. Mother Nature is behind that. With another forecast, we are confident that the figures will increase in that way eventually. The point has changed, but we are talking about a very natural process that is to be anticipated.
Today, I would say that this is the maximum stress. That's currently our point of view.