Okay. We'll see on the record what reason the owner gave when he talked to Mr. Van Kesteren.
The topic of procedure was brought up, and how things happen. Mr. Saxton knows very well that we will be voting in committee on the over-300-page bill. On some of the things we'll be voting in favour, and on some of the things we'll be voting against. But in the House we'll be stuck having one single vote on more than 300 pages of legislation, of which temporary foreign workers will be about two pages. So that's the way it works.
I would like to go back to Mr. Campbell and address the issue of demutualization.
Last year, as part of this committee's work, we had a briefing on demutualization. At that meeting, we talked a great deal about the Economical Mutual Insurance Company.
Are you familiar with the situation?