Evidence of meeting #39 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was amendment.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Brian Ernewein  General Director, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Ted Cook  Senior Legislative Chief, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Bernard Butler  Director General, Policy Division, Policy, Communications and Commemoration Branch, Department of Veterans Affairs
Suzy McDonald  Director General, Workplace Hazardous Materials Directorate, Healthy Environments and Consumer Safety Branch, Department of Health
Jason Wood  Director, Policy and Program Development, Workplace Hazardous Materials Directorate, Healthy Environments and Consumer Safety Branch, Department of Health
Brian McCauley  Assistant Commissioner, Canada Revenue Agency
Denise Frenette  Vice-President, Finance and Corporate Services, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency
Soren Halverson  Senior Chief, Corporate Finance and Asset Management, Department of Finance
Wayne Foster  Director, Securities Policies, Department of Finance
James Wu  Chief, Financial Institutions Analysis, Department of Finance
Donald Roussel  Acting Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport
Kash Ram  Director General, Road Safety and Motor Vehicle Regulation, Department of Transport
Michel Leclerc  Director, Regulatory Affairs Coordination, Department of Transport
Colin Spencer James  Director, Policy and Program Design, Temporary Foreign Workers, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Darlene Carreau  Chairperson, Trade-marks Opposition Board, Department of Industry
Nathalie Martel  Director, Old Age Security Policy, Income Security and Social Development Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Thao Pham  Assistant Deputy Minister, Federal Montreal Bridges, Department of Transport
France Pégeot  Special Advisor to the Deputy Minister, Department of Justice
Ann Chaplin  Senior General Counsel, Department of Justice
Atiq Rahman  Director, Operational Policy and Research, Department of Employment and Social Development

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

All right. I guess you have to ask the question.

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NDP

Murray Rankin NDP Victoria, BC

Ask and you shall receive.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Shall clauses 426 to 482 carry?

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NDP

Murray Rankin NDP Victoria, BC

(Clauses 426 to 482 inclusive agreed to)

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

We want to thank our two officials especially for staying so late. We appreciate that very much.

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Some hon. members

Hear, hear!

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

We'll go to division 30, the Apprentice Loans Act. I do not have any amendments for these clauses, clauses 483 to 486.

We want to thank our official again for staying so late. We appreciate that.

We have two minutes, so can I group these together, or are there any questions?

10:55 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I wouldn't mind getting just one minute from Mr. Rahman to explain what this part of the act will do.

As succinctly as you can, sir, just explain for us what it will be. And then we'll ask for a recorded vote, which we can apply, Mr. Chair.

10:55 p.m.

Atiq Rahman Director, Operational Policy and Research, Department of Employment and Social Development

Thank you.

The Apprentice Loans Act is very similar to the Canada Student Financial Assistance Act and will introduce loans for apprentices. These loans would be interest-free until apprentices complete or terminate their apprenticeship training, after which interest will be charged and they will go into repayment.

10:55 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I have a quick question on this, Chair, regarding the length of time. We're strongly in favour of this and of expanding the use of apprenticeships, which we know are underutilized in Canada. How long can that last? Because some apprenticeship programs like the Red Seal programs can take quite a while.

10:55 p.m.

Director, Operational Policy and Research, Department of Employment and Social Development

Atiq Rahman

Those details will be laid out in the regulations. We have been consulting apprenticeship stakeholders as well as provincial and territorial authorities, and their views will be taken into account in laying this out in the regulations.

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

So to this point, we don't know what the length of time is, but it's meant to incorporate.... I'm just concerned that the loan stipulation time will not meet the realities of how apprenticeships actually work in the country.

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Director, Operational Policy and Research, Department of Employment and Social Development

Atiq Rahman

Yes. Those numbers have not been finalized yet.

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Okay.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you.

(Clause 483 agreed to: yeas 9; nays 0)

Can I apply that to clauses 484 to 486?

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

The recorded vote—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

The recorded vote will apply to clauses 484, 485, and 486.

(Clauses 484 to 486 inclusive agreed to: yeas 9; nays 0)

I want to thank Mr. Rahman very much for staying so long. We appreciate that.

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Director, Operational Policy and Research, Department of Employment and Social Development

Atiq Rahman

Thank you.

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Some hon. members

Hear, hear!

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Colleagues, it is 11:01, so I have to move everything else—but we're almost finished.

We have six schedules. Could I group them all together? Is that possible?

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

I believe so. The first two, yes.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Okay.

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

The next one, no.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

We'll have a show of hands, then.

(Schedule 1 agreed to)

(Schedule 2 agreed to)

(Schedule 3 agreed to)

(Schedule 4 agreed to)

(Schedule 5 agreed to)

(Schedule 6 agreed to)

Shall the short title carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.