Evidence of meeting #39 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was amendment.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Brian Ernewein  General Director, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Ted Cook  Senior Legislative Chief, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Bernard Butler  Director General, Policy Division, Policy, Communications and Commemoration Branch, Department of Veterans Affairs
Suzy McDonald  Director General, Workplace Hazardous Materials Directorate, Healthy Environments and Consumer Safety Branch, Department of Health
Jason Wood  Director, Policy and Program Development, Workplace Hazardous Materials Directorate, Healthy Environments and Consumer Safety Branch, Department of Health
Brian McCauley  Assistant Commissioner, Canada Revenue Agency
Denise Frenette  Vice-President, Finance and Corporate Services, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency
Soren Halverson  Senior Chief, Corporate Finance and Asset Management, Department of Finance
Wayne Foster  Director, Securities Policies, Department of Finance
James Wu  Chief, Financial Institutions Analysis, Department of Finance
Donald Roussel  Acting Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport
Kash Ram  Director General, Road Safety and Motor Vehicle Regulation, Department of Transport
Michel Leclerc  Director, Regulatory Affairs Coordination, Department of Transport
Colin Spencer James  Director, Policy and Program Design, Temporary Foreign Workers, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Darlene Carreau  Chairperson, Trade-marks Opposition Board, Department of Industry
Nathalie Martel  Director, Old Age Security Policy, Income Security and Social Development Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Thao Pham  Assistant Deputy Minister, Federal Montreal Bridges, Department of Transport
France Pégeot  Special Advisor to the Deputy Minister, Department of Justice
Ann Chaplin  Senior General Counsel, Department of Justice
Atiq Rahman  Director, Operational Policy and Research, Department of Employment and Social Development

9:05 p.m.

NDP

Murray Rankin NDP Victoria, BC

In our view, clause 294 would give the minister sweeping powers to designate Canadians as what are termed here as “politically exposed domestic” persons, and as a result make them subject to extensive and invasive financial monitoring and reporting.

We think this is over-breadth writ large, and we would oppose this initiative.

9:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you.

Do you want a recorded vote on this one?

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NDP

Murray Rankin NDP Victoria, BC

Yes, please.

(Clause 294 agreed to: yeas 6; nays 3)

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Can I group clauses 295 to 298?

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An hon. member

Yes.

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NDP

Murray Rankin NDP Victoria, BC

(Clauses 295 to 298 inclusive agreed to)

9:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you so much for being with us tonight.

We'll move to division 20, Immigration. We have a number of amendments for this division, so I'll ask our officials to come forward.

I'll proceed with clause 299.

Is there any discussion?

(Clause 299 agreed to)

(On clause 300)

Monsieur Caron.

9:10 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

This clause pertains to temporary foreign workers. We aren't against the principle of choosing a portion of foreign workers by matching their skills with our needs. But we are opposed to this government's approach to labour market opinions and their use in the Express Entry system, as provided for in this clause.

These are the same flawed labour market opinions that gave companies the ability to hire foreign workers over Canadians. That's a much talked about issue these days.

We don't think this provision addresses the concerns that were recently raised. And for that reason, we are going to vote against clause 300.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Okay. Merci.

All in favour of clause 300?

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An hon. member

Recorded vote.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

(Clause 300 agreed to: yeas 6; nays 3)

(On clause 301)

We have amendment LIB-16, and we'll go to Mr. McKay.

9:10 p.m.

Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Thank you, Chair.

The Liberals support the measures in this section to increase penalties for those who abuse the temporary foreign workers program. We also support the measure in this section that corrects an oversight in the last omnibus bill. It seems that the government originally forgot to include the provincial nominee program in the expression of interest system. Sometimes things happen, Mr. Chair.

We oppose clause 303, which kills the immigrant investor program. The Conservative's unilateral approach to killing these programs is hurting our international brand. It is already subject to a serious court challenge.

Finally, on clause 301, the amendment ensures electronic applications are optional, not mandatory. The amendment was recommended by The Canadian Bar Association in recognition of the fact that many applicants have limited access to the Internet and that, “The online application system used by CIC continues to be problematic.”

I can speak to clause 302, but we're only on clause 301 at this point.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

We'll deal with clause 301.

Amendment LIB-16, then.

A recorded vote, Mr. McKay, I presume.

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Oh, why not?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

You don't have to have one. It's up to you.

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

I just feel so much better supporting my colleagues with a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4)

(Clause 301 agreed to)

(On clause 302)

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

We have two amendments here. We have, first of all, LIB-17.

Mr. McKay, do you want to make further comments?

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Yes.

On clause 302, Bill C-31 introduces severe penalties for employers found in breach. This amendment adds a formal review mechanism for employers against whom penalties are imposed. Again, this amendment was recommended by The Canadian Bar Association in order to ensure there's fairness and due process given the severity of the consequences.

9:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Okay, thank you.

Do you want a recorded vote on this?

9:10 p.m.

Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Can I just...?

9:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Yes, go ahead.

9:10 p.m.

Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Just out of curiosity, to the officials here, this strikes me as an eminently sensible amendment on the part of the Canadian Bar Association, and there is an issue of due process. I'm assuming that you don't think it's a necessary amendment.

May 29th, 2014 / 9:10 p.m.

Colin Spencer James Director, Policy and Program Design, Temporary Foreign Workers, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development

I think that's a fair assessment about not being necessary. The authorities set out in clause 302 before the amendment do not preclude a review process that could be set out at the time of regulatory development.

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

The authorities do not preclude...?

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Director, Policy and Program Design, Temporary Foreign Workers, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development

Colin Spencer James

The authority in the clause is an enabling authority that is broad enough in scope that a review process could be put in place at the time when the administrative monetary penalty scheme is put in place in regulations.