Yes, well, it's very hard to be concrete about that. We all acknowledge that if you come out of school and you spend a year or two failing to get something and each year there's another crop of new graduates coming out and competing for the new job that is created, the scarring effect can last for some time. Our belief is that over the next two years, we will manage to close up that gap and use that excess capacity. We're hopeful that it does not last a really long time.
We have to acknowledge that it exists. That's why when I was asked yesterday, I suggested, as I have privately to young folks who ask me what they should be doing in this job environment, that people volunteer to do something which is at least somewhere related to their expertise, so that it's clear they are gaining some learning experience during that period. That's not the same as advocating for very aggressive apprenticeship programs or so on. What I mean is having experience on the CV so the scarring effect is minimized.