Okay, great.
Mr. Scholten, I want to give you an opportunity to expand on my colleague Mr. Lapointe's question to you. You talked about excessive credit card fees and about how they are really crippling the convenience stores. You said that the industry lost $254 million and yet that the credit card companies were getting $850 million through these fees. You were disappointed that the Competition Tribunal, I think you said, didn't take up the challenge, and yet we've heard of a kind of advertising or awareness campaign by the federal government, acknowledged in the throne speech. I think you indicated that this didn't seem to be enough for your members.
What do you think has to be done? What are you specifically recommending to deal with this serious problem?