I heard seven or eight dollars. I heard more depending, again, on the refinery that you're dealing with, the system that you're going into. The obsession about tidewater, I get it; it's a diversification of the market. Is it fair to say that the discount for Canadian oil is exclusively about market access? Or is it also the contributing factor to this higher input cost and fewer products coming out the other end at a lower value?
On March 10th, 2015. See this statement in context.