One of the worst things the Canadian government can do is to make the mistakes we've made in the U.K., which have been, first of all, to look at this problem purely through the lens of criminality and legislation. By doing that, we as a government have tried to legislate our way out of these problems. There are some things that require legislation. There are some things that require bills, and there are some things that require governments to take direct action. One of the biggest mistakes our government has made in the U.K. is to fail to recognize that the battle of ideas is not best placed in the hands of the police and agencies.
I [Technical Difficulty—Editor] that the police force, the agencies, and bills are not best placed to actually prevent our youngsters from being radicalized. The best way we can do this, and perhaps finance can play a key role in it, is to counter the civic society engagement of youngsters by radicals and extremists to terrorism, and to promote, support, and empower a civic society response. This is something that needs to come from our society, but it needs empowerment and support from government.