Just so we're clear as to where we're at here, I understand, Greg, that if we hold these two hearings plus we have the minister here, this motion is not saying there should be a report. This committee would send that evidence from the discussions to the minister and to the department as part of their departmental consultations.
To break it down, there would be roughly 14 witnesses from the government side, seven or eight from the Conservatives, and two or three from the NDP. That's if we go with how it's traditionally done, and at this committee we don't always do that. We try to go to the best witnesses, no matter where they come from.
Mr. Sorbara.