There were two separate sets of allegations about the connection between the activity in our casinos and real estate.
On March 5, 2018, Kathy Tomlinson of The Globe and Mail wrote about allegations that 17 lenders, allegedly with connections to crime, loaned $47 million in builders' liens and other loans against 45 properties. Postmedia's Sam Cooper, on September 30, 2017, made a series of allegations about a gentleman named Paul Jin and others who were allegedly involved in laundering money and transferring money in casinos. Mr. Jin was also allegedly heavily involved in real estate.
As the member said, some of these were builders' liens. Others appear to be just debt registered against the properties. As I say, these are good examples of us reading about this kind of thing in the newspaper. I've not heard about the specific situation that the member outlined, but certainly there is no end to the creativity of the schemes I have heard alleged.
The challenge for law enforcement on any of these files is, first of all, the complexity of determining the extent of the arrangement. I understand that the second piece is then proving that it's connected to an indexed offence that created the proceeds of crime in the first place. Those two factors are quite difficult for law enforcement, as I understand it. In the situation you described, it's incredibly difficult to—