I think the best example we've seen here in Canada is the model of Chantier here in Quebec, which has been around for a little over 20 years now. In a very short period of time, the contributions to employment and social development, the services to rural, remote and under-served communities, and the investment capacity of the fiducie, the trust fund that Martin mentioned earlier, have been transformative.
The former ED of the Chantier, Jean-Martin Aussant, who came out of the finance world, said that the results he saw from the Réseau d’investissement social du Québec, just on a financial basis, were far superior to what he had seen in mainstream finance. That doesn't even take into account the social impacts of those investments. It really is transformative, and it's a small amount of money to do things differently that can make a huge difference.