Finance Committee on May 10th, 2016

Evidence of meeting #19 for Finance in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was income.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Subject Matter of Bill C-15, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 22, 2016 and other measures

Committee Business

MPs speaking

François-Philippe Champagne

Robert-Falcon Ouellette

Also speaking

Trevor McGowan Senior Legislative Chief, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Pierre LeBlanc Senior Chief, Quantitative Analysis, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

James Greene Director, Business Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Robert Demeter Chief, Business Property and Personal Income, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Greg Meredith Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Brad Recker Senior Chief, Expenditure Analysis and Forecasting, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Faith McIntyre Director General, Policy and Research Division, Strategic Policy and Commemoration, Department of Veterans Affairs

Glenn Campbell Director, Financial Institutions, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Alexandra Dostal Senior Chief Framework Policy, Financial Institutions Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance

1:50 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

Would the government be receptive to an amendment following this amendment, that would actually say that the Canada Revenue Agency would provide this committee with the information specifically related to the motion, as they gradually find it, instead of waiting until a date in the future? That may very well be June, July, August, or September, if the CRA decides that this is the earliest convenient time.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

What are you asking, Guy?

1:50 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

I'm asking if the government would be receptive to an amendment saying that all the correspondence and information related to the motion that they find will be sent to and shared with the committee as soon as it is found,.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I'm going to take the up question of “at the earliest possible date”. We can consider that as an amendment later. All those in favour of “the earliest possible date”?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Mr. Caron.

1:50 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

After “at the earliest possible date”, I would like to add, “provided that the Canada Revenue Agency forward to the committee any information it finds when it is found” related to the motion.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

When it is found?

1:50 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

When it is found, yes, so that it is immediately shared with the committee.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I think the understanding here is that the CRA provide as much information as they can before the minister appears on the 19th.

1:50 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

Yes, that's the intent.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

That's basically what you're asking.

Is that fair?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We will now vote on the motion as amended.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

I'm not sure it was clear, Mr. Chair, what you asked us to vote on just now. It's not clear to me. I cannot vote, but I want to know what we're voting on.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

The understanding is that the motion is “at the earliest possible date”, but what we're basically telling CRA is to provide what they can for us on May 18, progressively.

Okay, all those in favour of the motion as amended?

(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We are practically out of time, sorry.

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

I've been on notice for a long time on my motion, Mr. Chair.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

What's your motion?

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

It was long time ago, about three meetings ago.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Sorry, witnesses.

Yes, go ahead Ms Raitt.

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Phil McColeman Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

I think I was the next person in line to speak.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

She can pull her motion up at any time.

The motion was:

That the Committee invite the Honourable Bill Morneau, Minister of Finance, and officials from the Department of Finance, to appear as a witness for the Committee's deliberations on Bill C- 15, an Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 22nd, 2016 and other measures.

We agreed at subcommittee yesterday that he would come on May 30.

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

Great, perfect.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Do you want to pass this? Are we agreed to the May 30? Okay.

(Motion agreed to)

Mr. Ouellette.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

Robert-Falcon Ouellette Liberal Winnipeg Centre, MB

Will these fine ladies and gentlemen be coming back?

May 10th, 2016 / 1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We're going to have to ask them back, because we didn't deal with divisions 9, 12, or 14. We'll see if we can, but I doubt if we can.

I have one motion I want to put forward if somebody can move it. “That the evidence and documentation received during today's committee meeting in relation to its subject matter study of Bill C-15 be deemed received by the committee in the context of its legislative study of Bill C-15”.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

I so move.

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Are there any questions on division 5 other than those that have been raised?

Mr. Caron.