It's interesting, and I appreciate you telling us that you did have these phone calls with the PMO and that assurances were given, because I did take a look at the supplementary information that's on the budget.gc.ca website and it is silent on the issue of whether or not it's indexed, but it only has two years. Then I turned to the PBO report and found that's very clear. Even in 2020-21—sadly for you—there's no indexation, and the PBO is actually relying upon that in order to show that the government's books are in good stead over that period of time.
I appreciate you sharing with us the information. We may be following up on that somehow, in some fashion at some point.
Mr. Chair, I'll give you some notice that we may be asking for some PMO folks to come in and talk to us about what kinds of assertions they're giving with respect to indexation on the child care benefit. I do appreciate the work.
I do have a question for Dr. Lee. I have to say you did put out something very controversial; it is on your deck. You said that perhaps what we should do is amend the concept of universality and move towards more targeted measures. In other words, get rid of everybody getting it, you only get clawed back at about $70,000, and move it into more along the lines of.... You also said not to believe that the CPP is going bankrupt, that the Canada Pension Plan fund is in good stead.
I guess I'm wondering. The Liberal government has decided to move away from universality on the child care side. Can you tell me why they should do the same thing on the senior side?