Evidence of meeting #20 for Finance in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was budget.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Alex Scholten  President, Canadian Convenience Stores Association
Daniel Kelly  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Independent Business
Anders Bruun  Barrister and Solicitor, Canadian Wheat Board Alliance
Hendrik Brakel  Senior Director, Economic, Financial and Tax Policy, Canadian Chamber of Commerce
Ian Lee  Associate Professor, As an Individual
Céline Bak  President, Analytica Advisors Inc.
Ken Battle  President, Caledon Institute of Social Policy
Julien Lampron  Directeur Affaires publiques, Fondaction, le Fonds de développement de la CSN pour la coopération et l'emploi

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Yes.

There are some who couldn't come this week, and they will be re-invited, so some of them may fill in on the 17th or the 18th.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

It sounds to me that one way or the other you have that three-hour slot partially filled in each case and it will probably be filled so now we're talking Wednesday, May 18, from 3:30 to 6:30.

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

Assuming, if I'm reading this right, we're not going to invite another round of individuals, could we not do the officials during the Wednesday time slot, finish with the technical examination of the bill so that's out of the way prior to clause-by-clause, and then conclude with witnesses?

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Ms. Raitt.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

I wanted to follow up.

My question to officials on the child care benefit that we all wanted to get to the bottom of is a question about whether or not the adjusted family net income definition will include the child care benefit. I've done a little more research, Mr. Chair. We need to have Justice officials because they're in charge of the federal guidelines on child support payments, and that would be of the most benefit because they're the people who can answer the question for us.

I would submit that if officials are coming I would like somebody from Justice who understands the child care support benefit table.

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

I would endorse that too.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

Is that okay with you because otherwise we're going in circles?

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Yes. Among the officials we will ask for Justice officials who know that issue.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

That would be great.

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

As soon as he knows that discussion.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

Have we confirmed no witnesses are scheduled on the 18th?

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

No witnesses are scheduled yet.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

That would be the officials' three-hour day and then we could go clause-by-clause after that.

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

On Monday.

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

If we use the 18th for officials, on the 19th we have the Minister of National Revenue and officials. Then on the 30th we have the Minister of Finance. So we could start clause-by-clause at 4:30. The other problem we're running into is on the 31st there's no room available at 10. We want to start at 10 and go until...the motion said 11 p.m. Since no room is available at 10, we have to start the meeting at 11. We can use that first hour on the 30th from 4:30 to 5:30 to start clause-by-clause.

Ms. Benson.

May 12th, 2016 / 1:50 p.m.

NDP

Sheri Benson NDP Saskatoon West, SK

I want to ask a question about process and the order in which we're having people come. You said we're going to have the officials from government departments as witnesses and then they'll stay to be part of the clause-by-clause. Do you think that makes sense?

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

When we go to clause-by-clause there will be legislative people here and officials as well. We already did hold one session with officials, but we didn't have enough time to go through the complete list. So we still have four or five groupings of officials to talk on the bill plus, as Ms. Raitt said, she'd like to see some Justice officials here who understand the implications of the Canada child benefit, especially as it relates to separation and divorce.

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

Can we approve what we've just discussed?

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I think we're—

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

So we can get a running start on clause-by-clause after the minister's appearance on the 30th. If it's okay with you folks and we get ahead of steam on the 30th why don't we go a little later?

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We can't on the 30th because that's the night of the committee of the whole that the ministers, the House, and people will need some time to prepare for. It starts at 7, right?

I think it's 7 till 11. Mr. Caron wanted time to prepare. We'll stay with the witness list we have and we'll continue to invite the ones on the list. We will bring in the officials on the 18th in the two time slots, and we'll start clause-by-clause following the minister's presentation on the 30th. We're agreed on that.

The meeting is adjourned.