Thank you, gentlemen.
Now we'll turn to division 20, which would enact the poverty reduction act.
There are a couple of officials to come forward.
Ms. Hall is the Director General, Social Policy Directorate, ESDC; and Mr. Vaillancourt is the Senior Director, Social Development Policy Division, ESDC.
(On clause 315)
We'll start with amendment NDP-13. If it's adopted, NDP-17 cannot be moved.
Mr. Dusseault, do you want to speak to that?