Evidence of meeting #26 for Finance in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was agreed.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Annette Ryan  Director General, Employment Insurance Policy, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Phil McColeman Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

How many copies?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Does anybody know? What's the tradition?

So we're agreed that the committee shall order a reprint of the bill.

4:05 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I believe that completes the bill before midnight. Is there anything else?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

Not on this but before we adjourn?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Yes, okay. There's nothing else on the bill?

You wanted to raise a point before we adjourn?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

Are we meeting Thursday?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I don't believe we are. We haven't got anything on the agenda for Thursday, and I think we had last night and today, so I don't see the need. But the staff are trying to work on a proposed schedule for the pre-budget hearings in the fall. We were talking about it earlier and maybe we could raise that point now. We were wondering where the committee should go in B.C., in Alberta, and in Quebec.

It was suggested at the subcommittee discussion that we would try to do the 10 provinces and staff would determine what the costs and schedule would be, etc., as a preliminary for the committee to look at.

I think Ms. Raitt suggested going to Kelowna in B.C.

Where would it be possible in Alberta outside of Calgary and Edmonton?

It was you, Ron, who suggested that could we go somewhere else in Alberta than the usual.

Where might we go in Quebec, Mr. Caron?

I just want suggestions at this stage. We'll have to make a formal plan a little later.

Are there any thoughts?

Mr. Caron, then Mr. Liepert.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

I am not opposed to the idea of visiting different cities than the ones we usually go to. Perhaps we could visit smaller communities. However, before making a decision, I think we have to know where the briefs we receive are coming from. For instance if in Alberta we receive a considerable number of briefs from Calgary and Edmonton, it would be logical to hold a meeting in Red Deer, since it is halfway between the two. I think it will really depend on the origin of the presentations, and we probably will not know that before the month of August.

I don't know if we could postpone the discussion to our return, or perhaps we could discuss it at the end of the month of August or the beginning of September. In any case, we will by then have more information on where the briefs came from.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

It's just that if we have names, we can do the preliminary costing and all that kind of stuff—the travel and what weeks the meetings would be in. We could name Montreal, or....

Where has the committee traditionally gone in Quebec, Guy?

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

To my knowledge, the committee has not travelled since 2011. From 2012 to 2015, the committee has remained in Ottawa and heard testimony by videoconference. I was not a member of the committee in 2011. This will be a new experience for all of us.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

I think that Montreal is visited often. We could go there, but we should also consider Quebec City. As in the Red Deer example, we could also consider Trois-Rivières. I don't know if there are any government members who know Trois-Rivières.

4:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

François-Philippe Champagne Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

I know the area somewhat, in fact.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

It would be logical to choose Trois-Rivières, or even Drummondville, since they are halfway between Quebec and Montreal.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

At least for initial planning we could use Montreal.

Mr. Liepert, you were going to come in on this question.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

I was just going to suggest that after I made the comments about Red Deer, there was a point well made that we want to spend as little time as we have to on the road getting to places. Red Deer is not that easy to get to. Let me give it some thought, relative to whether it would be Calgary or Edmonton, but I'd reconsider this.

For costing purposes it won't matter whether it's Calgary or Edmonton, so just cost one or the other, but I'll give some thought as to whether it makes sense to go to one rather than the other.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We are hearing from the PBO on June 9, which is next Thursday.

Does the committee also want to hear from the PBO on Mr. McColeman's motion? There's a question from the PBO to discuss the cost estimates for bills. The estimates were released, yesterday and today, on Bills C-239 and C-241. Do we want to hear the costs on those, or not?

4:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Okay. The witnesses for the CRA and the KPMG continuing study have been invited for Tuesday June 7.

Mr. Caron, you look....

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

Is it CRA or CPA?

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

It's CPA. The study is called CRA, but one of the witnesses will be from the CPA.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

Since the Parliamentary Budget Officer is often in Ottawa and we want to do a study on the Canada Revenue Agency, could we reverse the dates, to give us the time to choose the witnesses and ensure that they will all be present?

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

The clerk has already asked the parliamentary budget officer what would work better for him and his staff. He has indicated that Thursday would work best, so we had best stick with that day.

Okay. Until Tuesday, the committee is adjourned.