I'll move to the first nations finance representatives, Mr. Daniels and Mr. Berna. You mentioned some of the exciting things going on down in the south Okanagan. I've been involved peripherally with the Nk'Mip in Osoyoos, and I've been closely following projects in Penticton.
I just wonder if you could perhaps comment briefly on the hurdles and challenges that first nations face that businesses outside that community don't face when trying to build big projects to give their people work and capacity.