Yes. We heard from the pension plan, and I've also spoken in the last Parliament to the public service. They believe that growth opportunities, in the pensioner's best interests, should diversify outside the Canadian economy. Even Mr. Barton, when he came to this committee, agreed that Canadian pension funds are looking to invest outside of Canada for those reasons. He also mentioned the importance of being at arm's length for their governance structure and the importance of non-political interference. You said you've already spoken to them—
