We can't change demographics. What we know is that in the next 15 years there's going to be a tsunami of retirements in construction and in the skilled trades. We cannot change the mode age of my membership, which is 52; that's the most frequent age. What we have to do is get the training file completely right for young people to replace the skills that are going to be walking away from job sites.
We have ups and downs in our economy, in the various regional economies in Canada. At any given time, anywhere in the country we might have a small surplus or a small shortage. But essentially, even among industrial employers in Alberta today, if you talk to the big producers, they're having shutdowns in a sequential way to maintain their $4-billion or $5-billion facilities. There's still a scramble to find people. It's about demographics and it's about the investment in the training system and it's about getting that file right.