Evidence of meeting #62 for Finance in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Trevor McGowan  Acting Chief, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Glenn Campbell  Director, Financial Institutions, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Jean-François Girard  Senior Project Leader, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Eleanor Ryan  Senior Chief, Financial Institutions Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Suzie Cadieux

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

We have almost another three years left of this government. I don't see the urgency that we have to ram this thing through committee stage in, literally, the next 10 days. I cannot support this quick and dirty process. It just doesn't make any sense when we have all kinds of time.

There was nothing in what Mr. Ouellette just finished reading that seems to be urgent, so I would like to encourage the government to give this due process. We'll have lots of time in January to do that.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I think if, from what I read, it was debated in the Senate, there is some urgency to it, Mr. Liepert. I don't know if Mr. MacKinnon wants to read what was stated in the Senate. I don't know if it's absolutely accurate or not.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

We'll have a chance to review that. There is some urgency and perhaps a lot less complexity involved in this legislation than the members assume there is. That's all I would say, but we'll have time to study the bill and I'd suggest we vote on the main motion.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Okay.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Just to put it to members, when we sign these tax treaties and when there's a discrepancy between the Income Tax Act and a tax treaty, the tax treaty gets precedence. If we don't study these things, it could potentially contravene Canadian law in such a way that affects us. I think as parliamentarians, we should not tolerate a quick and dirty process, just because the government sees a couple of holes.

I've already made suggestions of what we could study. That's something that I think all of us would agree had a large amount of support in the House.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

All those in favour of the motion put forward by Mr. MacKinnon.

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Mr. Chair, I have a motion as well that was put on notice. I see you picking up the gavel.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I am picking up the gavel because I'm going to adjourn fairly quickly.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Mr. Chair, I have a motion that I gave notice on.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Let's hear it.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Mr. Chair, I move:

That the Finance Committee make a report to the House, no later than December 2, 2016, recommending that the Government raise the issue of child rearing and disability drop out provisions at the next Provincial and Territorial Finance Ministers meeting, in the context of the Triennial review of the Canada Pension Plan.

The motion is also provided in French.

November 28th, 2016 / 6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Go ahead, Mr. Albas.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Mr. Chair, I don't think you'll find this in order because we were discussing it as an amendment and the amendment was still being discussed. Therefore, the member can't move a motion that's already been moved.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Not if there's substantial change, Mr. Chair.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

There's supposed to be 48 hours' notice for a change, Mr. Chair.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

It is substantially different because there is a deadline in this one now. It's actually dated.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Also, I provided 48 hours' notice

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Mr. Chair, again I would just say that the committee has to deal with the previous business first before you can move on to new business. We already have something on our order paper, so to speak, with regard to this exact topic.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

This is a separate motion. This is not an amendment to a previous motion.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

We don't have an order.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

We do have a list of precedents as to what gets done and we actually have that as a debate. You can't have two different discussions on two different motions that touch the same topic.

Has the member given us 48 hours' notice for her to move this?

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Yes.

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Yes, it was issued on Friday.

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

Is it 48 business hours?

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Yes.