There are models that I would say we can take pieces from and look at. Certainly, the Fraunhofer models in Germany are very well regarded models of collaboration between industry and the public sector as well as post-secondary education. As you know, they have a much stronger apprenticeship system in the middle that provides some of the glue.
Singapore is a model, but it's a neat and tidy economy. You see very structured models of collaboration between those two groups.
In our case there are a number of reasons that there is a continuing challenge to bridge the gap and broker the partnerships. Our established firms spend less on R and D, so they are not as strong receptors for the breakthrough research and ideas that emerge from our academic sector. The academic sector is not necessarily resourced to build the bridges to those other markets. Then, we have a lack of risk capital to fund the collaborations.