It always depends. It's a continuum. A lot of projects that have a tariff associated are already revenue-generating; you can associate commercial financing from that tariff. There may be other planning bases where a province or a territory, particularly up north, has a vision where they'd like to expand energy into the north; they'd like to move indigenous communities off diesel; and they want to expand that grid. Whether it's too risky, or the commercial sector would demand too high a return to expand that infrastructure in various parts of Canada, the infrastructure bank would be a tool to come in to help manage that risk to get that project done in the public interest.
On May 18th, 2017. See this statement in context.