Let me answer that.
All of our members, especially when speaking about major capital expansion projects, tap in typically to their debt room. The debt room is typically set at the provincial level. Some cities have the ability to cap it as well. It's always within a prudent percentage of own-source revenue. That said, the more predictability you have, whether it's through the gas tax or an allocation-based transit fund, the easier it is to smooth out your planning in terms of how you're going to maximize that debt room and utilize it. I think you'll find, if you look city by city, our major, bigger members, who have the largest capital projects, are trying to be as creative as possible to use that room, but at the end of the day the availability of predictable funding is really key to doing more.