I appreciate that.
I'm going to turn my attention to Fanshawe College and Mr. Wright. You talked about federal government support for more funding to promote trades. I also took a note down in terms of what I call integration support with small businesses, providing more support that will help to facilitate that.
I spent a couple of days in Berlin before Christmas. They do such a wonderful job in bringing together their educational facilities, their unions, the government and businesses to try to figure this all out.
Could you explain the role you might see for the federal government in helping to address this issue that seems to be percolating?