I can't speculate and I don't know who would have been talking to WE, if anybody. It was certainly not me or Department of Finance officials.
I would clarify for the committee that in this second proposal, which was building on the first one, in addition to social entrepreneurship and business service placements there was a service placement stream, for COVID, for the arts. That is still not the ultimate proposal and what the government agreed to do for a third party administrator.