Evidence of meeting #2 for Finance in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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4:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
Well, you're continuing to disrupt, Pierre. Obviously, you don't want to go there. That's fine.
Ms. Dzerowicz, go ahead on your point of order.
4:50 p.m.
Liberal
Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON
I introduced the motion on October 8, and then it was interrupted on a question of privilege by Mr. Poilievre. Technically, I have introduced a motion. It is on the floor. I probably want to change a couple of the dates on it, but it's exactly the pre-budget consultation motion.
Since it is on the floor, is it possible for me, as per what you suggested, to bring it forward?
4:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
When we suspended, we were on the subamendment to the amendment to the motion. Without unanimous consent to go back to the pre-budget consultation motion, we can't do that. We'll have to deal with what's before us.
At this stage, I don't see unanimous consent, so we will have to go to the subamendment. I believe that's where we're at.
Go ahead, Mr. Poilievre.
4:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
—but we want to establish a speaking list. I believe Mr. Fraser was next. If Mr. Fraser is willing to let you go, we'll go with you, Mr. Poilievre, and then Mr. Fraser.
Could we start to establish a list from there? I didn't put up my hand-raising thing yet. We may have to turn to the clerk on this.
Go ahead, Mr. Poilievre.
4:50 p.m.
Conservative
Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I actually think Mr. Julian is next on the list.
4:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
Well, at the last meeting, I believe it was Mr. Fraser after Mr. Gerretsen, and then Mr. Julian—I think.
4:50 p.m.
Conservative
Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB
Does the speaking order continue on from meeting to meeting? How does that work?
4:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
We should be going with the speaking list from the previous meeting, I believe. I'm not 100% sure on that, Mr. Falk, but I don't think anybody is—
4:55 p.m.
Conservative
Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB
I think Mr. Julian will be brief anyway. Just leave him where he is.
4:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
Okay. We'll go with....
Who wants to go first—Mr. Poilievre or Mr. Julian or Mr. Fraser? I'll leave it up to you folks.
4:55 p.m.
Liberal
Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, before we get into the speaking order stuff, there's one thing I'm curious about and need the clerk's advice on. There obviously are certain issues of commonality around document production between the motion, the amendment and the subamendment on the floor at this committee and the motion that was just voted on by the House.
I'm curious to know, from a procedural point of view, whether the clerk has advice on the impact of the vote that's just been taken in the House of Commons on the motion before this committee.
4:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
Does the clerk want to make a comment on that?
I think, from where I sit, it's committee business, but go ahead, Madam Clerk.
4:55 p.m.
The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Evelyn Lukyniuk
I'm sorry, but I couldn't hear. As a reminder, members should put their microphones on mute when they are not speaking.
Unfortunately, Mr. Fraser, would you mind repeating?
4:55 p.m.
Liberal
Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS
No, I don't mind repeating. Thank you.
I'm just curious to know your advice with regard to the motion that's currently being debated at this committee, which has certain commonalities with the motion that was just voted on before the House of Commons. Does the vote that was just taken at the House of Commons have any impact on the motions before this committee?
4:55 p.m.
The Clerk
No, they would not be related items.
4:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
Yes, what happens in the House and what happens in the committee are basically two different areas.
I have on my list Mr. Poilievre, Mr. Julian, Mr. Fraser, Ms. Dzerowicz and Mr. Fragiskatos. Do we want to go with it this way? Okay.
Go ahead, Mr. Poilievre.
4:55 p.m.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I have to say this circus that the Prime Minister has created gives rise to great suspicion about what he is hiding.
First we had the WE scandal, then the WE cover-up, then the WE prorogation, and then today, in order to try to cover it all up again, we had his threat of a “WElection”. The last thing we need right now is a “WElection”. We need to focus on the pandemic.
Canadians are suffering, millions are unemployed, our jobless rate is the highest in the G7, our deficit the biggest in the G20, and instead of working on those problems, this committee—
October 21st, 2020 / 4:55 p.m.
Liberal
4:55 p.m.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON
—is playing games to try to prevent the truth from coming out in the WE scandal.
4:55 p.m.
Liberal
