Right. We don't know one way or the other whether or not those exclusions are properly applied.
On a related matter, Mr. Dufresne, you are the chief legal counsel to Parliament. You know its powers better than anyone. Today your office sent me a briefing note, telling me that the power of Parliament to send for persons is part of the privileges, rights and immunities of the House of Commons, which were inherited when it was created and are found in section 18 of the Constitution Act of 1867 and section 4 of the Parliament of Canada Act.
Now that in the related committee, the ethics committee, the Kielburger brothers have refused to appear—have refused an invitation from Parliament—can Parliament issue a summons and force them to appear before that committee? If they still refuse—