You're quite right. People on fixed incomes, seniors, no matter what their income is fixed at—and this is one of the areas that we're often very concerned about.... We often have governments tell us that they'll look after the low-income people. However, the low-income people, unfortunately, in this country are basically people under $20,000 a year. Who can live on $20,000 anyway? The more middle-income people who are still very low income.... If you're a senior or a family living on even $30,000 or $40,000 a year, a fixed income over a number of years, then the kind of inflation that we're seeing now is on basic commodities, basic things that they have to have every day. They are not choices. There's a real concern.
Financial concerns are always right at the top with older Canadians. We do surveys. When we talk in CARP about how 80% of our people believe such and such, we actually survey our people at least once a month on many topics. We're speaking, and we get literally thousands and thousands of responses, so it's a good accurate indication of how they feel. When we ask what the key concerns are that they have, certainly these days it's health that is number one for everybody. However, financial security is always in the top two. Health and financial security move back and forth.
Anything that makes them fear whether or not they will outlive their money is a huge concern the older seniors get.