That's correct. We are not in any way connected to the “sword” companies. There are a few emails in which Ms. Georgeson actually contradicts herself. In one email she says that Cordery was only the service provider for KPMG, when we know that Cordery was also the service provider for nine other non-KPMG OCSs and was also the service provider for the “sword” companies, which we had no involvement in.
She also goes on to indicate that the service provider provided other services and not just the OCS services. She contradicts herself in saying that was the only service that she provided. She also goes on to say that the OCS was unique to KPMG. We know for a fact that it wasn't unique to KPMG. There are all sorts of OCSs that are provided within the Isle of Man.
With respect to Ms. Georgeson, I'm not suggesting she is lying; I'm suggesting that she is an administrator who was doing her job but really didn't provide the same level of due diligence that we would have in terms of searching out who was included within the KPMG offshore companies.
We've done extensive searches within our databases, Mr. Ste-Marie. We've spent hours upon hours searching our databases, including forensic reviews. We've involved external legal counsel as well. We've interviewed everybody involved with the offshore structure.