Well, it is a point of debate, certainly.
Just to put my colleague's concerns at complete ease, all of those profits are invested in green projects that benefit the environment, so I think it's important for that to be on the record, and I can see on my screen how excited Mr. Julian is about that.
To the officials, I had a question when Minister Freeland was here, about predatory lending and the consultation process that will take place, specifically on the criminal interest rate that currently sits at 60%.
Officials, do you have any information about the number of Canadians who have accessed what would be considered predatory loans, during the pandemic in particular but also in general terms over the past few years? Is there anything you can provide the committee on that point?