That's a good point to end on.
To you people in the health care field, my wife is a retired nurse, and I get my ears burned every day. Thank you for your points.
Ann, we heard your thoughts on Bill C-25 and we will put those forward as well, not before our committee but before another one.
In any event, thank you to all the witnesses. This was a wide-ranging discussion during this panel, as many of them are. There were good questions and good responses, and that's what we like to hear. There's not always agreement in this committee, as you can see, but a good debate makes for better policy. Thank you very much.
For the committee, we will go to our fourth panel of the day right now.
Thank you to all the witnesses again.
The meeting is suspended for one minute.