Evidence of meeting #5 for Finance in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was documents.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Evelyn Lukyniuk

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

All right. We'll suspend for 15 minutes.

Hopefully, we can get back to this, because we're going to run into another committee as well.

This meeting is suspended.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We shall reconvene.

I believe all members have received a copy of the two amendments in both official languages.

We'll go to, Mr. Fraser.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

Could we ask that the clerk read the motion?

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Can you read the motion in full, Madam Clerk?

4:45 p.m.

The Clerk

That the committee temporarily set aside the motion relating to the point of privilege put forward by the Member for Carleton on October 8, 2020, and the subsequent subamendments moved by the Member for Calgary Rocky Ridge and the Member for Kingston and the Islands, and that the Committee adopt all evidence heard in the First Session of the 43rd Parliament during the committee’s study on “Government Spending, WE and the Canada Student Service Grant”; and that the committee order that by November 24, 2020, the Government provide the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel with all documents as originally requested in the July 7, 2020 motion moved by the Member for New Westminster-Burnaby, including all documents the government provided the Law Clerk in August, without any redaction, omission or exclusion except as was justified originally in sections and subsections 69(1) through 69(3)(b)(ii) of the Access to Information Act, that the information remain in the Office of the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel and be used exclusively by him to determine the government’s compliance or non-compliance with the July 7, 2020 motion, and that the Clerk of the Privy Council and the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner appear no later than November 25, 2020 to discuss “cabinet confidence” exclusions to public disclosures, and that the Law Clerk testify before the committee regarding documents received from the government pursuant to this motion to provide his views on the government’s compliance with the July 7, 2020 motion.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

You have heard the motion.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

We've talked this one through, Mr. Chair, I'm ready for a vote.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Is there unanimous consent to go with this motion?

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

I'd love to just hear from Mr. Poilievre and Monsieur Ste-Marie to be certain.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Mr. Poilievre and Mr. Ste-Marie, are you okay with this motion for unanimous consent? I assume if you're with unanimous consent, you're okay with it.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

I think this is a step forward and a significant improvement that will also let us get on to the committee's business.

I think this is the best we can do for now.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Mr. Ste-Marie.

4:50 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC

Yes, me too. It's an acceptable compromise.

I would like to add one new amendment. No, just kidding, I'm ready to vote.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

You're a good man, Gabriel.

Mr. Julian.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

Our committee is funny in both official languages.

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

It certainly is.

I'm reassured by the modifications that have just been accepted, so I'm prepared to give consent as well.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Okay. We have unanimous consent to deal with the motion.

Okay then, all those in the favour of the motion?

Madam Clerk.

4:50 p.m.

The Clerk

Do you want a recorded division?

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Yes, we'd better go with a recorded division.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 11; nays 0)

Thank you all.

Ms. Dzerowicz, your motion is next, please.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Oh, my goodness, I just want to say this is a momentous moment.

November 19th, 2020 / 4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

I'm glad I could be here for the beginning and the end.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Mr. Chair, I don't know what the proper way of doing this is.

I would like to move a motion to start our pre-budget consultations. I can read it out. It is exactly the same motion that was introduced on October 8, other than the dates being updated.

Do you need a copy of it, Mr. Julian?

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

That would be very helpful.

Thank you, Ms. Dzerowicz.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

The clerk has the motion in both official languages.

I will have the clerk send it to you. It's already been submitted in both languages, of course.

I will read it out.

Do you want me to wait until everybody has received it? I could wait a minute.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I think you can read it. It is not substantially changed from the other.