Every time you lose a dollar, you lose even more.
Thank you very much.
Madam Richard, one experience in Manitoba that we found frustrating that resonated with me when you were talking about mandated overtime was that we had a government that is now on its way out, but the Conservative government of the day was not coming to the bargaining table to negotiate in good faith with nurses. The working conditions were causing a lot of nurses to leave. They would go into a private agency and then be hired back into the very spaces, in some cases, where they had been working before. By working on contract through a private agency, they were able to get the kinds of accommodations in the workplace that they wanted but that governments weren't willing to negotiate at the collective bargaining table.
I'm just wondering if you could speak a little bit about the effort to try to get some of the improvements in working conditions that nurses would like to see through the collective bargaining process and the extent to which that helps to feed the very expensive proposition of using private agencies to staff our health care centres.