Evidence of meeting #11 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was witnesses.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger

3:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Thank you, Mr. Blaikie.

Ms. Dzerowicz, are you speaking on this amendment? You are.

We will go to Mr. Beech afterward.

3:15 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

I think Mr. Beech and I are probably going to channel the same things.

I am going to agree with what Mr. Blaikie said. I think that was the intention of what Mr. Beech said earlier, which is that this is our initial tranche. As we move along, we're probably going to learn more and will want to hear from some other witnesses. This is a very important topic that it appears we are all seized with.

3:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Thank you, Ms. Dzerowicz.

Go ahead, Mr. Beech.

3:15 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

I'm agreeing with what has been said. I'm also happy to change the date from Friday to Monday if individuals think having the weekend would be valuable.

3:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I'm looking to the members. Is that something that is required? Do we want to change the date?

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Well, the only problem with changing the date to Monday is that the original motion proposes to begin hearings on Monday, so it would be hard to get witnesses the same day.

3:20 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

We do have some proposed witnesses who could be here, potentially.

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Oh, right. Yes, that's true.

3:20 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

I was going to add that it may be helpful for us to have certain witnesses come first, before other witnesses. I was okay with the proposed witnesses who are already in this original motion. I'm not sure if we want to start with them next week.

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Yes, that makes sense.

3:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Just on this amendment, are we holding with Friday or are we moving that to Monday?

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

I consider Monday to be a friendly amendment.

3:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

So it's Monday, January 17. That is friendly. It looks like everybody is in agreement with that.

Then we had Monsieur Ste-Marie's amendment. I believe it was to move to 10 meetings. Is that right, Monsieur Ste-Marie?

Yes, okay.

Thank you.

Is there any discussion on this?

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Well, my suggestion is that we just leave it open-ended—that we remove the 12-day clause and that we leave the study to go on until committee members have decided they've heard enough. Some of the other members of the committee have suggested that. It seems reasonable to me. If we get through 10 meetings and it seems there's not much more to hear, then we can terminate the proceedings and draft and publish a report, but if we want to go on longer, we can do that too.

3:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I'm looking for agreement from everybody. It looks like everybody is shaking their heads the right way, with thumbs-up.

Go ahead, Mr. Beech.

3:20 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

Mr. Chair, speaking to this, an easy solution might be “that the study include at least 10 meetings”.

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Yes, there you go.

3:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

The phrasing would be “that the study include at least 10 meetings”. That is friendly.

On discussion to the amendments to the main motion, I see Madame Chatel.

January 12th, 2022 / 3:20 p.m.

Liberal

Sophie Chatel Liberal Pontiac, QC

As a quick question in regard to Mr. Blaikie's amendment and the week of January 26, that was the day that would be difficult. If we need more meetings, maybe we could find another week.

3:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Thank you, Madame Chatel.

I'm looking to members to see if there's any discussion.

No. Then we can take this to a vote.

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Sorry, Chair, I missed it. What are we voting on now?

3:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

This would be the main motion. I think all the amendments were friendly, right?

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Okay, yes.

3:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I think everything's been accepted.

Do you want to go through your motion now, with the changes that have been brought in? Then the clerk can interject if something is missing or something needs to be added.

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

To be honest, first of all I have one final friendly amendment to my own motion.