Evidence of meeting #111 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cannabis.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Mark Purdon  Professor, Chair in Decarbonization, University of Quebec in Montréal, As an Individual
Joanna Bernard  Interim National Chief, Assembly of First Nations
Robert Asselin  Senior Vice-President, Policy, Business Council of Canada
George Smitherman  President and Chief Executive Officer, Cannabis Council of Canada
Alex Vronces  Executive Director, Fintechs Canada
Léa Pelletier-Marcotte  Policy Analyst, Oxfam-Québec
Diana Sarosi  Director, Policy and Campaigns, Oxfam-Québec
Julie Pellerin  Senior Director, Economic Development and Infrastructure Branch, Assembly of First Nations

1 p.m.

Professor, Chair in Decarbonization, University of Quebec in Montréal, As an Individual

Mark Purdon

That's a big question.

I think the ambition is there. There is not a consensus on this among academics working on these issues in Canada, but my feeling is that, as the cost of carbon pricing goes up, there is going to be increasing political resentment to those costs. The amount of $170 per tonne is about double what we're at right now.

For Quebec to meet its emission reduction targets, some of the economic lobbying I've seen said that pricing could go up to $300 a tonne to meet it, which is a bit more ambitious than Canada's target.

It seems that it could become politically salient.

I'm happy to talk more about the Quebec-California carbon market, but carbon pricing isn't really politically salient in Quebec. We have agreement of both parties, the CAQ and Liberals, and the others....

There are debates on other issues of climate policy, and that is maybe because the carbon price has been lower than in the rest of Canada. That's one issue which, in the back of my mind, I think international emissions trading could be explored as a sort of backstop on the backstop, if I can say that, in terms of carbon pricing, and also as a way of fostering international co-operation and allowing for other parts of the world where it's cheaper to reduce emissions to accelerate their decarbonization efforts there.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Thank you.

Thank you, MP Thompson. That is the time.

We want to thank our excellent, diverse group of witnesses we have with us here today. You've done a tremendous job of informing us in this study of the pre-budget consultation in advance of budget 2024.

We thank you on behalf of all the members, the clerks, the analysts and the interpreters, who have done a fine job, and everybody in this room. Thank you very much. We appreciate your coming before us.

Members, we are adjourned.