Exactly.
Ms. Pohlmann, in your survey, you stated that the majority of your members put the first issue of concern as taxation. Philip Cross, who came before our finance committee, said that in addition to all of the technical issues that plague the Canadian economy, like the lack of capital, regulatory reform and overtaxation, there's also a cultural issue. We need to be rewarding those business owners.
When we heard what happened at the onset of the mandate of the Trudeau government, that business owners were in fact tax cheats, what type of dampening effect do you think that had on your business owners? No one works harder than business owners, working 24-7 just trying to stay aboard.