It's on page 66.
Evidence of meeting #140 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #140 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
12:30 p.m.
Conservative
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Liberal
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Conservative
12:31 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
We're back.
MP Chambers and the legislative clerk, are we good? Okay.
Members, can you keep the noise down? Members, please, could everybody keep the noise down to a level at which we can hear the member?
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Conservative
Adam Chambers Conservative Simcoe North, ON
I regret my misread of the subsection at the top of that page, which I thought was the clause, and I recognize that we have already dispensed with clause 7, but, in the interests of expediency, so we don't have to do it for every single time that October 1, 2023 appears—and I will provide this in writing—I want to change every single subsequent reference to October 1, 2023 to October 1, 2024.
If you want to wait until we do each clause, that's fine.
12:31 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
I'm going to confer with the clerk.
MP Chambers, you will have to do it as we go through the bill. You will have to note the clause, the line and the page number.
12:31 p.m.
Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.
I don't want to be disrespectful, but I believe that it's the parliamentarian's job to substantively amend it. It is the House of Commons team that helps with the page numbers and stuff. That is not a parliamentary responsibility. That is for the clerk to do.
12:35 p.m.
Philippe Méla Legislative Clerk
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Usually it would be up to the legislative drafter to draft the amendments properly with the page and line number. Let's say, for example, that a parliamentarian says he wants to move an amendment to clause 8 to change a coming-into-force date. We don't know where that is in the bill unless we have been told where that is.
It's a 600-page bill. We don't know all the lines of the coming into force. It would be up to the legislative drafter to do that, but, as you know, we don't have any on site. If you want draft amendments, we can ask for amendments to be drafted, but then we would have to wait for the amendment to come back in both official languages if they are to be distributed.
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
No, we're continuing here, MP Lawrence.
(On clause 8)
All right. Clause 7 was carried, so we're into clause 8.
Shall clause 8 carry?
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Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
I'd like a recorded division.
I believe we have an amendment, do we not, Mr. Chairman?
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An hon. member
[Inaudible—Editor]
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
We'll have a recorded vote.
(Clause 8 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)
What I heard, MP Chambers, was that you believe the next time you'll want to bring an amendment will be at clause 15. Is that correct?
12:35 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Okay.
Members, if there are no amendments from clauses 9 to 14, do we have unanimous consent to group those?
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
No. I would prefer to go clause by clause, Mr. Chair.
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Liberal
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Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
I'd like a recorded division, please, Mr. Chair.