I could give you some numbers. We say it's conservatively at $1 billion, but it's more than that. It's $1 billion on the evasion side, on the company side, but it's about $5 billion a year on the tax evasion by a number of drivers. It's a massive leakage.
We can't figure out why the laws aren't being enforced. When you talk about that leakage, that's money that should go to supporting hospitals and health care and all of our social institutions. It's not there.
