I certainly believe it. We hear it from our members as well. That's why if we go ahead with our net-zero goals in the country, then we are going to have to help those companies transition. We can't say to them, “Pay the carbon tax, and by the way you have to go find new technology and pay for it.” You can't push and pull at the same time.
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