As I said at the outset, I would like to tell my colleague that a plan is in place for recovering the CERB. As we said, it is a case-by-case process, and we really encourage people to call the Canada Revenue Agency.
In the beginning, we wondered whether the CRA had learned lessons, and so it was important to do a thorough review, precisely to make sure that we adopted the best practices in a future pandemic.
I would like to remind you of what happened at the beginning of the pandemic. It was described as the most important event since the Second World War. Programs had to be put in place rapidly.
We also have to work with the provinces, and we have to do our job better, I agree. Are there people who abused the system? I'm sure there are. I am sure that people have also been victims of fraud, which is why it is important to do a thorough review so we can do things better in future.