Evidence of meeting #87 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was ministers.
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9:05 p.m.
Liberal
Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
—"without further debate on all remaining clauses and proposed amendments"—
9:05 p.m.
Liberal
Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
—"as well as each and every question necessary to dispose of clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill, as well as all questions necessary to report the Bill to the House and to order the Chair to report the Bill to the House as soon as possible".
I wanted to give advance notice of this amendment so that members understand—
9:05 p.m.
Conservative
Adam Chambers Conservative Simcoe North, ON
I have a point of order. Thanks, Mr. Chair.
I believe we are debating a subamendment, and it's not appropriate or allowable for a member to move another amendment while we're doing so. I'm not sure that's relevant to this subamendment.
9:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
MP Baker, I don't think you said “move”. You said you were giving notice—
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Liberal
9:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
It is relevant, and, MP Chambers, you've done it yourself. Others have done it here in the room.
MP Baker, you still have the floor.
9:05 p.m.
Liberal
Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
Thanks very much, Chair. I'm making sure that members are aware of the intention here, so I'm giving notice. I'm not moving it. I wanted to give advance notice so that members can understand our intent going forward in this debate.
I believe that the current filibuster, which has seen us lose 20 hours of committee time that could have been spent hearing from witnesses, is indicative of the need to set a deadline for clause-by-clause to be completed. This amendment mirrors language from the motion we adopted during last year's BIA, following a Conservative filibuster last year.
I believe we need this deadline, because without such a deadline, we're likely to see another filibuster during our clause-by-clause review of the bill, which would result in a delay to the supports that are in the budget implementation act: things like dental care or other measures that are going to help, the affordability measures that are going to help Canadians. We would see a delay in these supports being delivered, and it would impact, of course, the rest of the committee's schedule.
I'd be curious to see where members stand on this amendment in the context of our current discussion about the subamendment and clause-by-clause, and I look forward to moving it when the Conservatives are prepared to allow a vote on the invitation for the Deputy Prime Minister to appear for two hours, which is an amendment that we support.
I have provided the text of the motion that I gave notice on to the clerk in both official languages as well.
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
May 2nd, 2023 / 9:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Thank you, MP Baker.
I believe the clerk has received it and has distributed it.
Next on my list, I have MP Blaikie—
9:05 p.m.
Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
On a point of order, just to be clear, that closure motion is not in order at this point, because we're discussing—
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Liberal
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Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
But you can't bring a motion, Mr. Chair—
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Liberal
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Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
He didn't have to give notice anyway because we're discussing it.
9:05 p.m.
Liberal
Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
—the Conservatives continue to raise points of order. They have spoken for basically all of 20 hours, minus a few minutes when our members have been able to speak, and for most of those 20 hours, they've discussed nothing to do with the motion that's being debated.
Now I've raised a point that is relevant. I've not moved it. What I'm doing is procedurally correct. I'm simply giving an indication in the context of our current debate, in the context of this amendment and the subamendment, that this is our intention. I want them to know what I plan to move when they end this filibuster and allow us to go for the vote, so that we can get the BIA passed and get Canadians the supports they need that are available in the budget but won't be available if we don't get the BIA passed soon.
That won't get passed soon if the Conservatives continue their filibuster.
9:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Thank you, MP Baker.
I am going to suspend for a bit just to confer with the clerk.
11:30 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
We're back.
It is relevant. The notice is relevant. MP Baker can do that. It has been distributed by the clerk and all members should have received it in both official languages, I hope.
We left off with MP Baker.
MP Baker...?
11:30 a.m.
Liberal
Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
Thank you, Chair. I have said everything that I wanted to say.
11:30 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Thank you.
Now we'll go back to our list. I have MP Blaikie, then MP Chambers and then MP Perkins.
Go ahead, MP Blaikie.
11:30 a.m.
NDP
Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I trust I'm coming through on the microphone now.
I have been listening—obviously for some time—to the proceedings of the committee and have learned a number of things about the east coast fishery, which is nice for a Prairie boy.
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Some hon. members
Oh, oh!
11:30 a.m.
NDP
Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB
It's certainly not my area of expertise, but I understand that in the Second World War Prairie boys actually were more likely to sign up for the navy than anyone else in the country, and I think there is a certain fascination that one has with things that are so different from what you know, coming from the Prairies.
In fact, my grandfather did exactly that. He grew up in Biggar, Saskatchewan, and joined the Canadian navy. The Canadian Naval Air Group was his beat, so I've been happy to indulge similar sentiments during the course of Mr. Perkins' remarks, let's say....
How's that for diplomacy? I think pretty good, Mr. Chair.