Finance Committee on Dec. 13th, 2021

Evidence of meeting #9 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was mclean.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Bill C-2

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Philippe Méla Legislative Clerk

Clerk of the Committee Mr. Alexandre Roger

Trevor McGowan Director General, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Maximilian Baylor Senior Director, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Benoit Cadieux Director, Special Benefits, Employment Insurance Policy, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

I have a point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Mr. Poilievre, go ahead.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

I would like to have clarification that my amendment, which would amend part 3.1—I think it's going to become 3.2—has been received and that this amendment will be in the package on which we will vote at 10 p.m. if the time runs out.

8:45 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Philippe Méla

Yes, it will. Would you like us to distribute it to the members of the committee at this point?

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Yes, please.

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Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

I have a point of order as well, Mr. Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

On a point of order, go ahead, Mr. McLean.

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Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

Can I move an amendment from the floor to amend proposed section 41, in clause 18, to change “March 31, 2026” to “September 30, 2024”?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

That is not possible.

Go ahead, Philippe.

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Legislative Clerk

Philippe Méla

Mr. McLean, we have to go in the order in which the bill is studied. Is that in clause 18 as well?

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Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

I'm bringing that from the floor, to make sure the amendment gets on the table for us to discuss before we stop considering amendments at 10 o'clock.

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Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Mr. Chair, I have point of order.

I'm sorry, but you can't move a motion on a point of order. I feel like we're all over the place right now.

8:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Ms. Dzerowicz, you are correct. That cannot be done.

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

I'd like to be recognized, if I can, please.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Go ahead, Mr. McLean.

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Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

Do I have the floor, Mr. Chair?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

You do.

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Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

Thank you.

Can I move a motion to amend clause 18 of the bill so that proposed section 41 changes the date from March 31, 2026 to September 30, 2024, please?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I'll confer with the clerk.

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Legislative Clerk

Philippe Méla

Would you be able to provide us with a written copy of the amendment? Amendments have to be provided in writing.

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Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

Okay. I'll give you that.

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Legislative Clerk

Philippe Méla

Thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

The clerk has a question for you, Mr. Blaikie.

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Legislative Clerk

Philippe Méla

Just a minute ago, talking about NDP-3 and NDP-4, you indicated that you would have another amendment to NDP-4. Would you have the text for that one?

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NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

Yes. In NDP-3, Mr. McLean's amendment replaces the term “dividends” with “taxable dividends on common equity”. What I was proposing in my motion to table NDP-3 and NDP-4 was that an amendment be deemed moved to NDP-4 that would likewise replace the term “dividends” in NDP-4 with “taxable dividends on common equity”, so that they remain consistent with each other.