Thank you. It's been many years since I've had the chance to sit at the finance committee so I'm glad to be here.
I just wanted to touch on something that my colleague, Ms. Chatel, said. It's in regard to debt, net debt versus gross debt. I always believed that the government should list its gross debt. I think for net debt, when you get fooling around with CPP and the Quebec pension plan it's no different from a publicly traded corporation that has pensions within their corporation. Any way you look at it, it's not really their money. It is the workers' money and it is for their pension.
When you look at the numbers we're at, closely approaching $2 trillion, can you just put that into context as to how catastrophic and how much it's going to handcuff the country going forward?