I have these discussions, even in the context of modernizing CBC/Radio-Canada's mandate. What we often hear from regions is that, yes, the heat map of where CBC/Radio-Canada penetrates is not perfect, but in some communities that is perhaps the only resource to get news. Let's not get into other unreliable news that is penetrating. It is important.
To the colleagues who were talking about the fourth pillar of our democracy, it is so critical. It's more than just news. It's about making sure that people are able to hear themselves in the accents and languages that they hear when they talk to their families or go to the store. It's also about getting fair news to remote areas.