You're absolutely right. They're corresponding. There are long lead times across the board. There are very good pieces with respect to the defence industrial strategy and how that knits together the innovation cycles, but the civil side also cannot be ignored. It's about certification, the environmental workforce and the innovation on the civil side.
The defence industrial strategy is a very good start. It's encouraging on the defence side, but drawing together some of the linkages on the civil side is still required.