Evidence of meeting #42 for Finance in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was health.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Holmes  Executive Director, Business Enablement and Regulatory Services, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Laforce  Director General, Department of Health
Coulombe  Director General, Legislation, Sales Tax Division, Department of Finance
Brown  Senior Director, Financial Sector Integrity and National Security, Department of Finance
Marion  Senior Director, Payments Policy, Financial Services Division, Department of Finance
Countryman  Director General, Federal-Provincial Relations, Department of Finance
Maxson  Senior Director, Employment and Education, Personal Income Tax Division, Department of Finance
Hancey  Director, Policy and Regulatory Affairs, Department of Health
Heath MacDonald  Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Marjorie Michel  Minister of Health
Patty Hajdu  Minister of Jobs and Families
Groen  Associate Deputy Minister and Chief Operating Officer for Service Canada, Department of Employment and Social Development
Janeiro  Director, Policy and Government Relations, Canadian Centre for Caregiving Excellence
Saunders  Chief Executive Officer, Community Living Toronto
Haan  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Council on Rehabilitation and Work
Willbond  Chief Accessibility Officer, March of Dimes Canada
MacKenzie  National Director, Public Affairs, Advocacy, and Strategic Communications, March of Dimes Canada

Patty Hajdu Liberal Thunder Bay—Superior North, ON

I would say that we're doing three things. One is that we have our mind on the pain that some Canadians are feeling—

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

Minister, I have a limited amount of time, but you refuse to answer why we're in a recession.

Patty Hajdu Liberal Thunder Bay—Superior North, ON

I haven't been able to—

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

You are talking about growing a strong economy, which we know is not true, because now Canada is in a recession. Can you tell us why other G7 countries are not in a recession, even though they are facing the exact same external factors as Canada?

Patty Hajdu Liberal Thunder Bay—Superior North, ON

I would say that our focus has been very clearly on affordability for Canadians. My question back to you is, why do you keep voting against the very Canadians who are utilizing—

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

Can you mention one part of affordability?

Patty Hajdu Liberal Thunder Bay—Superior North, ON

I'll name one. You're from Ontario. I'm sorry that I don't know exactly where you're from. In Ontario, a family that has a child in child care is now saving an average of $13,000 per year, per child. Maybe you've never had to pay for child care, but I certainly did as a single mother, and I can tell you this makes a giant difference.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

Minister, I'm actually from Alberta and we are the province that your government has repeatedly attacked—especially our resources. Thank you.

I have to ask you something, because you keep saying “build Canada strong”. In just the first three months of this year, 120,000 full-time jobs were lost. Can you tell us why?

Patty Hajdu Liberal Thunder Bay—Superior North, ON

Since you're from Alberta—I apologize for not knowing that—I will say that in your province—

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

I've moved on. There's another question.

Patty Hajdu Liberal Thunder Bay—Superior North, ON

In your province, under early learning and child care, families are saving $13,000 per child—

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

There were 120,000 jobs lost in the first few months of this year. Can you tell us why?

Patty Hajdu Liberal Thunder Bay—Superior North, ON

—per year in Alberta as well. Every step of the way, as we've worked for people in Alberta and as we've worked for people in Ontario, we have seen your party vote down measures—

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

Minister, in the first three months of this year, 120,000 jobs were lost. Can you tell us why, please?

Patty Hajdu Liberal Thunder Bay—Superior North, ON

As I have said repeatedly, we are here for two important reasons. The first is to support Canadians with affordability—

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

What about the 120,000 workers who lost their jobs because of your government?

Patty Hajdu Liberal Thunder Bay—Superior North, ON

I'm sorry, Madam Chair. I can't seem to get an answer out without being interrupted.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Please go ahead, Minister.

Patty Hajdu Liberal Thunder Bay—Superior North, ON

The second is to make sure that we have in place the measures that will grow our Canadian economy even stronger—

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

I'll take that as a non-answer.

Minister, in your opening statement—

Patty Hajdu Liberal Thunder Bay—Superior North, ON

For example, the Shell Polaris project—

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

It's my time.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

I'm sorry, Minister. Can you allow MP Hallan to ask his question?

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

Minister, in your opening statement, you claimed that you guys are going to be building more homes. Your government promised to build 500,000 homes a year. Your own housing agency says that's not true, because housing starts will decline and 280,000 homes are needed just to get to affordability.

Can you give us a date on when 500,000 homes a year will be built? We just need a date.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

You have about 10 seconds left.