I think fundamentally that's exactly right, and if we do not come to grips with the fact that we are dealing with a propaganda campaign that is unparalleled in the twentieth century—the latter half.... I won't say the twentieth century, because there was certainly a very good, parallel campaign run in the 1920s and 1930s that resulted in a democratically elected government going on to behave in an abhorrent manner.
This campaign is equally efficient, equally well-run, and it has equally captured the minds and the hearts of European and American, and I must say, some Canadian people, with the same kind of tactic. It's called the big lie. If you repeat a big lie, the thesis goes, often enough, sooner or later people start discussing details. The minute you are discussing details, the big lie has won. That's what we're dealing with. We're not dealing with facts and figures; we're not dealing with economic realities. This is what we're dealing with.