Thank you very much for showing here this morning, gentlemen.
What I want to do is go back to this Cultus thing, because I think the Cultus issue is probably going to be the defining issue in the fishery this year. I'd like to walk you through it to make sure everybody around the table understands what we're talking about here.
There are 17 million or 18 million sockeye returning to the Fraser this year. Half of that, roughly, will be the total allowable catch, which will be divided up between the various user groups.
You suggested—and correctly so—that the exploitation rate of those Cultus sockeye was, I think, 11% last year, and that's the number that's on the table now and that's being negotiated. The commercial fleet is saying the exploitation rate should be about 40%. There are some native groups saying zero.
When we're talking about a 12% exploitation rate, we're not talking about very many fish, are we?